tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post2629713684625699998..comments2023-12-30T21:07:49.487-07:00Comments on Arizona 8th: Bush is writing the Petraeus Report!!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-62967609934312859832007-09-03T14:09:00.000-07:002007-09-03T14:09:00.000-07:00I tend to agree with Liza that this is all about t...I tend to agree with Liza that this is all about the oil and the worry that a regime close to Iraq would sell it to the Chinese instead of us.<BR/><BR/>Well...why didn't the moron think of that before they went in? My students figured out easily that destabiling the Sunni government (aligned with those in the middle east that are thought of as our allies...Saudis, Jordan, Egypt, etc) would leave the government of Iraq and its oil in the hands of the Shiites (aligned with Iran, Syria, Hezbolah, etc).<BR/><BR/>Pardon me Framer but this kind of stupidity reflects very poorly on the Neocons, but I will say it also reflect pretty poorly on our Generals.<BR/><BR/>This is the very reason why Petreus armed the Sunnis....you know...Hussein's people...the insurgents...our enemies.<BR/><BR/>This war is indefensible....period. Like Liza, the only thing that saddens me is that there are over a million dead Iraqis...and are likely to be more when we leave...that is what worries me a bit about redeployment...and gets me thinking about how to transition.<BR/><BR/>As it stands now, the US just wants to control the piggot of the oil...and I bet that there are some thinking that we would be better off it no one gets it than if the current and future government does.<BR/><BR/>Not much love for America over there, I can't imagine them selling us their oil afterward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-51977892307858895282007-09-01T07:50:00.000-07:002007-09-01T07:50:00.000-07:00Ha Ha. Good one, anonymous. Yeah, the Iraqis rea...Ha Ha. Good one, anonymous. <BR/><BR/>Yeah, the Iraqis really should thank us. And why are they being such piss ants about the oil? They should just sign the Oil Law and roll out the red carpets for Exxon, Chevron, Shell, and British Petroleum. Wouldn't you think they should just embrace the inevitable? <BR/><BR/>George, George, he's our man. If he can't get it, Hillary can!!!!Lizahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14605279152700363635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-64385626613099300892007-08-31T21:55:00.000-07:002007-08-31T21:55:00.000-07:00General Petraeus never fought an insurgency before...General Petraeus never fought an insurgency before he was given the task by Wartime President Bush.<BR/><BR/>He wrote a dissertation regarding insurgency and now he has a lab to test his thesis.<BR/><BR/>Lucky Iraqis! They have the right conditions for being an experiment bigger than Biosphere 2. They should thank us for having the experts in charge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-88223842961385873992007-08-31T20:28:00.000-07:002007-08-31T20:28:00.000-07:00Whoops, make that 8/16 report.Whoops, make that 8/16 report.x4mrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726002265345298344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-23996818494713275962007-08-31T20:27:00.000-07:002007-08-31T20:27:00.000-07:00I re-read my 8/8 story to see if it was particular...I re-read my 8/8 story to see if it was particular misleading, and I don't think it is. I knew that the law required the report to proceed as you have accurately described here. My position at the time (and still) is SO WHAT?<BR/><BR/>My point was that the WH was spinning the situation, calling it the "Patraeus report" and referencing it in a misleading manner. My point was not that they were breaking or changing how it was supposed to happen. My point is that they were spinning to make it look like something it is not, which is a "pure" communication directly from the General.<BR/><BR/>I think the press picked up on that, and yes, omitting language about the details of the law might be shady.<BR/><BR/>To extent my story suggests something has "changed" perhaps I could have improved the language.<BR/><BR/>The key is WH was making statements suggesting the report would be something it is not.<BR/><BR/>My key assertion is that the WH is in denial about the reality on the ground over there, and the report will not change anything.<BR/><BR/>I won't cite it (yet), but evidence already exists of modifications "softening" the document.x4mrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726002265345298344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-32803055483686069882007-08-31T19:53:00.000-07:002007-08-31T19:53:00.000-07:00anonymous,You have got to get a blogger name. You...anonymous,<BR/>You have got to get a blogger name. You are TOO GOOD to be anonymous. We need to recognize you.Lizahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14605279152700363635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-79275724321866837442007-08-31T13:53:00.000-07:002007-08-31T13:53:00.000-07:00All of this is damned ugly propaganda, designed to...All of this is damned ugly propaganda, designed to legitimize the indefensible.<BR/><BR/>The Lancet report charting a million deaths linked to the occupation is probably the report that will be remembered by Iraqis and historians.<BR/><BR/>Bad ugliness is bad ugliness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-9214571381219640312007-08-31T13:16:00.000-07:002007-08-31T13:16:00.000-07:00I agree the reporter was disingenuous . I saw a co...I agree the reporter was disingenuous . I saw a couple weeks ago it's required by the statute that the report come from the President, so one can't really complain about that.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the President has been portraying all year as the general's report, so we'll see how much ... uhm ... "clean up" and "tightening" and 'editing" gets done between what Petraeus submits and what gets spewed back out.<BR/><BR/>Petraeus is only testifying in person before Congress because Congress refused to agree to a proposal from the administration that Rice testify in his place. If the President had his way, Petraeus would not appear.Siroccohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690606094337353266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-68330452798670662872007-08-31T12:58:00.000-07:002007-08-31T12:58:00.000-07:00The entire Iraq enterprise is disingenuous. The Ti...The entire Iraq enterprise is disingenuous. The Times included.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-57086155380698726842007-08-31T12:25:00.000-07:002007-08-31T12:25:00.000-07:00General Petraus will likely provide most of the wo...General Petraus will likely provide most of the workable information for the written report AND he will report in person to Congress.<BR/><BR/>This is hardly a "gotcha." Petraus is the centerpiece of the entire September presentation, so refering to him in connection with the report is not dishonest.<BR/><BR/>You have to admit that the Times reporter was being disingenuous, however, and got just the reaction he was looking for.Framerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09867927854445059711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-37343301519043768932007-08-31T11:35:00.000-07:002007-08-31T11:35:00.000-07:00The Betray Us ReportThe Betray Us ReportAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-41063534811621457202007-08-31T11:32:00.000-07:002007-08-31T11:32:00.000-07:00Lets say it's one thing for the President to regul...Lets say it's one thing for the President to regularly describe it as "General Petreus' report", or similar terms, over the last few months, and that what will actually be provided is something entirely different.Siroccohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690606094337353266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28821987.post-69942976900819464482007-08-31T09:01:00.000-07:002007-08-31T09:01:00.000-07:00Thank God for spell checkers, then.Thank God for spell checkers, then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com