Wednesday, October 04, 2006

On the subject of Ducking. . .

Much has been made today of Graf's not appearing for the Arizona Republic editorial Tribunal. Giffords has been skipping other opportunities:

The Phoenix Diocese developed a voter guide for the upcoming election. Giffords did not answer the survey, but Graf did. Here are his responses and responses from the Giffords campaign headquarters:

1. Allow tuition tax credits, vouchers, etc. Randy supports, Gabby does not.

2. Prohibit human cloning. Randy supports, Gabby office not sure, but said she supports use of embryonic stem cells.

3. Legalize physician-assisted suicide. Gabby supports, Randy does not.

4. Prevent welfare recipients from receiving extra funds for conceiving a baby as a welfare recipient. Randy supports, Gabby office says she most likely does not.

5. Prohibit government agencies from accepting matricular consular cards (loose Mexico-issued ID cards for use in the U.S.). Randy supports, Gabby office not sure-maybe opposes.

6. Constitutional amendment protecting traditional marriage. Randy supports, Gabby does not.

7. Require informed consent and information prior to abortion. Randy supports, Gabby does not.

8. Maintain statewide public defender office for criminals facing death penalty. Randy supports, Gabby office not sure.

9. Make illegal presence in the U.S. a felony. Gabby does not support, Randy does not support.

10. Mandate health care providers provide morning after pills. Gabby office believes she supports, Randy does not.

11. Exempt non-profit religious organizations from contraceptive mandates. Randy supports, Gabby office not sure.

12. Simplify tax credits so non-itemizing tax filers can deduct charitable contributions. Randy supports, Gabby office believes she supports.

I bet that there is more to learn here than will ever come out in an Arizona Republic editorial, but that is just a hunch.


Randall Holdridge said...

Surely the Pope in Rome, the "Congregation of the Faithful", and the Vatican press office don't now speak on behalf of Arizona Republicans?

What is this post intended to argue? I'm not being simply argumentative. This is an honest question.

Is Roman Catholic theology the official doctrine of Randy Graf and the Arizona Republican party?

Are all Arizona Republicans then Roman Catholics, or subject to Papal discipline?

Do Protestant Republicans disavow the freedoms conscience and of individual intellectual judgement won by the Reformation and by the American Revolution, and accede to the authority of a centralized religious authority?

Must all Americans who are neither Catholic nor Protestant Christians, be denied by statute the exercise of indiviudal conscience or judgement?

The Committee said...

Randall, your response is beyond bizarre.

A little common sense will tell you that this is simply a list of questions with responses that may be of interest to the public.

As you can see, there are no references to the Catholic Church's position on any of the issues listed.

I can't for the life of me understand what any of this has to do with your comments.

And I can't believe I took the time to respond.

Randall Holdridge said...

Forgive me if I got this wrong, but I'm fairly certain that this post stated right up front that it was advancing on behalf of candidate Graf the voters' guide as distributed after Mass by the Catholic Diocese of Phoenix.

What did I miss?

Randall Holdridge said...

Just so I'm clear, is this the same Arizona Roman Catholic Church which has declared itself in solidarity with the undocumented immigrants from the south whom candidate Graf execrates?

Just asking?

truthhurts said...


No, you're NOT "just asking". You're trying to make a point with all your questions that is completely unfounded.

You might want to re-read the beginning of the post which says "The Phoenix Diocese developed a voter guide for the upcoming election". Nowhere does it say that it was advanced on behalf of Graf. It was advanced on behalf of voters so that voter could see where each of the candidates stands on some issues that are common concerns both to liberals and conservatives. Liberals would want to know that Giffords opposes the marriage amendment, informed consent for abortion laws, school vouchers, etc. So quit reading too far into this thing. It's VERY non-partisan, non-religious.

If you actually used your head you might actually be able to articulate a reasonable point.